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Re: Kim Davis

Postby bob_rx2000 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:51 am

How many times has this individual been married herself? Defense of the sanctity of marriage on religious grounds is a very slippery place where one must be careful...
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Re: Kim Davis

Postby Xenokilla » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:07 pm

jroyale wrote:It's ironic to be charged with contempt of the law when the actual Kentucky law is actually on her side


402.005 Definition of marriage.
As used and recognized in the law of the Commonwealth, "marriage" refers only to the civil status, condition, or relation of one (1) man and one (1) woman united in law for life, for the discharge to each other and the community of the duties legally incumbent upon those whose association is founded on the distinction of sex.



Sigh, do we need to go back to third grade on this? Supreme court > Kentucky law
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Re: Kim Davis

Postby Happy Mom » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:17 am

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Re: Kim Davis

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Re: Kim Davis

Postby Happy Mom » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:49 am

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Re: Kim Davis

Postby Spider » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:07 pm

Sigh. Just once i'd love to see a political argument stick with whether or not something is right or wrong, and not devolve into "Well the other side did it too! They're hypocrites!". That doesn't win you an argument. That doesn't mean something is right or wrong.

Both parties go IMMEDIATELY to the hypocrisy argument, because they know they're all as corrupt and hypocritical as the others. The idea that one party has 'better moral standing' is a complete myth. If hypocrisy means one side can no longer have relevance in an argument, both parties, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc., all just need to close up shop on talking about political issues ever again.

And the issue remains ignored.
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Re: Kim Davis

Postby Xenokilla » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:52 pm

Spider wrote:Sigh. Just once i'd love to see a political argument stick with whether or not something is right or wrong, and not devolve into "Well the other side did it too! They're hypocrites!". That doesn't win you an argument. That doesn't mean something is right or wrong.

Both parties go IMMEDIATELY to the hypocrisy argument, because they know they're all as corrupt and hypocritical as the others. The idea that one party has 'better moral standing' is a complete myth. If hypocrisy means one side can no longer have relevance in an argument, both parties, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc., all just need to close up shop on talking about political issues ever again.

And the issue remains ignored.



exactly. she ignored a supreme court order, she was held in contempt. she did this because of her own personal (bigoted) religious "beliefs"
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Re: Kim Davis

Postby Spider » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:39 pm

"Since I am a pastor of a southern Baptist church please allow me to weigh in on the case of Kim Davis, the lady in Kentucky who refuses to issue a marriage licenses to a same sex couple.

First: This is not a case of the government forcing anyone to violate their religious belief. She is free to quit her job. If she quits her job to honor God surely God would take care of her.

Second: This is not a case of someone trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage. If she wanted to uphold the sanctity of marriage she should not have been married four different times. If she is worried about her name being affixed to a marriage license that goes against a biblical definition of marriage, she should not have her name on the last three marriage licenses given to her.

Third: This seems to be a case of someone looking to cash in on the religious right. Churches all across the south will throw money at her to come and tell congregations how the evil American government put her in jail because of her faith in Jesus.

This is why we are losing.
This is why people have such disdain for evangelicals.
Not because we disagree but because we don’t take the bible seriously. If ever there was a case of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”, this is it. If ever there was a “take the log out of your eye” moment, this is it.

We must stop looking to the government to make America a Christian utopia. Our kingdom is not of this world.
We must abandon all thoughts of fixing others and let Jesus fix us.
If we want sanctity of marriage then stop cheating, stop having affairs, stop looking at porn, stop getting divorces. That is the way for the church to stand up for the biblical definition of marriage, not by someone martyring their self-righteous self."
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