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The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby Happy Mom » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:50 pm

Ferguson police say Michael Brown was suspect in robbery
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A suburban St. Louis police chief on Friday identified the officer whose fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager ignited days of heated protests, and released documents alleging the teen was killed after a robbery in which he was suspected of stealing a $48.99 box of cigars.


Ferguson, Mo., Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that the robbery took place just before noon on Saturday at a nearby convenience store roughly 10 minutes before a police officer identified as Darren Wilson fired the bullet that killed Michael Brown. Police say that the shot was fired after a struggle touched off by Wilson's confronting Brown. Jackson said Wilson is a six-year veteran with no disciplinary action on his record.

The news conference came after nearly a week of sometimes-violent protests and calls by many, including President Obama, for local law enforcement to be more transparent about the circumstances surrounding the shooting. Police previously said they withheld Wilson's identity because of the potential for threats on the officer and his family. The officer has been on administrative leave since the shooting.

Police released still images and were planning to release video from the robbery, at a QuikTrip store in Ferguson. Jackson said Wilson, along with other officers, were called to the area after a 911 call reporting a "strong-arm robbery" at a nearby convenience store. He didn't immediately release details about the alleged robbery, saying more information would be released later.

Jackson provided few other details about Wilson at the news conference and did not take any questions. Jackson said Swisher Sweets cigars were stolen in the robbery. He was suspected of stealing the box of cigars. The documents released by authorities include surveillance images from the store.

According to the police reports, Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, were suspected of taking a box of cigars from a store in Ferguson that morning.

"I am incensed," Laura Keys, 50, told The St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "I can't believe this is the tactic they are using, bringing up a robbery to make the victim look like he was the person who created this whole mess."
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Police have said Brown was shot after an officer encountered him and another man on the street. They say one of the men pushed the officer into his squad car, then physically assaulted him in the vehicle and struggled with the officer over the officer's weapon. At least one shot was fired inside the car before the struggle spilled onto the street, where Brown was shot multiple times, according to police.

But a much different story has been told by Dorian Johnson, who says he was walking down the street with Brown when he was shot. He has said the officer ordered them out of the street, then grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car before brandishing his weapon and firing. He says Brown started to run and the officer pursued him, firing multiple times.


The attorney representing Brown's family, Benjamin Crump, said Brown's parents are "incensed" by what he calls "the old game of smoke and mirrors." He says the family was blind-sided by Friday's announcement.

Crump says "it's bad enough they assassinated him, and now they're trying to assassinate his character."

Tensions in Ferguson boiled over after a candlelight vigil Sunday night, as looters smashed and burned businesses in the neighborhood, where police have repeatedly fired tear gas and smoke bombs.

But on Thursday, county police in riot gear and armored tanks gave way to state troopers walking side-by-side with thousands of peaceful protesters. The dramatic shift came after Gov. Jay Nixon assigned oversight of the protests to the state Highway Patrol, stripping that authority from the St. Louis County Police Department.

"All they did was look at us and shoot tear gas," Pedro Smith, who has participated in the nightly protests, said Thursday. "This is totally different. Now we're being treated with respect."

The more tolerant response came as President Obama spoke publicly for the first time about Saturday's fatal shooting -- and the subsequent violence that shocked the nation and threatened to tear apart Ferguson, a town of 21,000 that is nearly 70 percent black and patrolled by a nearly all-white police force.

Nixon's promise to ease the deep racial tensions was swiftly put to the test as demonstrators gathered again Thursday evening. But the latest protests had a light, almost jubilant atmosphere among the racially mixed crowd, more akin to a parade or block party.

The streets were filled with music, free food and even laughter. When darkness fell -- the point at which previous protests have grown tense -- no uniformed officers were in sight outside the burned-out QuikTrip convenience store that had become a flashpoint for standoffs between police and protesters.

Nixon appointed Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson, who is black, to lead the police effort. Johnson, who grew up near Ferguson and commands a region that includes St. Louis County, marched alongside protesters Thursday, joined by other high-ranking brass from the Highway Patrol as well as the county department. The marchers also had a police escort.


"We're here to serve and protect," Johnson said. "We're not here to instill fear."

Fox News' Mike Tobin, Edmund DeMarche and The Associated Press contributed to this report
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby Happy Mom » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:54 pm

comments on line;

Weston Lowe
Do you hear that sound America? It's the sound of millions of race cards being secretly slid back into pockets. The police officers of Ferguson deserve an APOLOGY from our president, and anyone who tried to turn this into a race issue should be ASHAMED.



Liberals will scream: "There is no death penalty for stealing cheap cigars!"

I will save them the trouble by pointing out that this is NOT the issue. The issue is that this destroys the narrative that Brown was a giant, sweet teddy bear who could never hurt anyone. It also forces them to consider that maybe, just MAYBE, a man who would commit this strong-armed robbery against a much smaller man would likely have no problem confronting and assaulting a cop.


Funny how when facts are actually released, the masses (especially the ignorant media, the race baiters and the numbskulls on social media who knew nothing!) quiet down, huh? Due process of the law is amazing... I love America and the way she legally handles problems! Not all facts are out yet of course, so, as I said yesterday, continuing to pray! :D


Michael Brown's "priors" from casenet.

He also has a juvenile criminal record that is sealed.

Description: Burglary - 1st Degree { Felony B RSMo: 569.160 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1401000

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Assault 1st Degree - Serious Physical Injury { Felony A RSMo: 565.050 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1301100

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby Happy Mom » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:00 pm

Breaking: PHOTOS RELEASED of Suspect Michael Brown ROBBING STORE Before Shooting
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, August 15, 2014, 9:08 AM




Ferguson police released a report today detailing a robbery before the fatal shooting last week of 18 year-old Michael Brown.
Chief of police Jackson held a press conference early Friday morning.

Here is a copy of the report on the Ferguson convenience story robbery.
Michael Brown was 6′ 4″ and 292 pounds.



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The convenience store video reveals Michael Brown entering the store followed by Johnson. Brown hands a box of Swisher Sweets to Johnson. Brown took several boxes of cigars and turned to leave the store. “Brown grabbed the clerk and “forcefully pushed him back into a display rack.”

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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby Xenokilla » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:37 pm

regardless, the Police response is way out of hands, a no fly zone? tear gassing reporters? arresting reporters? That goes against everything this country stands for.
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby BobbyBeetleMishawaka » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:19 pm

Ferguson and the Unwritten Contract between Police and the Community
By Jack Dunphy

A few thoughts on the recent events in Ferguson, Mo. So far we have only been given the merest details about the incident, and most of what we know — or think we know — has been provided by a young man who says he was walking with Brown when they were confronted by the officer. They were walking down the middle of the street, he says, when the officer drove up and told them to “get the f*** out of the street.” They didn’t, and moments later Michael Brown was dead.

I recall a television interview with Columbia University professor John McWhorter (it may have been on the Charlie Rose Show; I couldn’t find a reference to it online) in which he described being stopped by police in Oakland, Calif. McWhorter was walking across a street and jaywalked in front of a police car, an offense so trifling he was surprised when the officer stopped him. I can’t recall all of the details, but while McWhorter was upset by the experience, he came to understand it later.

He described the unwritten contract between the police and the community in places like Oakland, where one would think a petty affront to the commonweal like jaywalking should hardly warrant a police officer’s attention. But this unwritten contract, as McWhorter described it, places demands on both the police and the community. Under the contract, police officers ignore minor infractions like jaywalking, but they expect the community not to flout the law, even a minor one, in their presence. Thus when McWhorter jaywalked, the officer took it as a violation of the contract and a challenge, one that could not be ignored.

I spent many years as a cop in South-Central Los Angeles, and this contract exists there as it does in Oakland and any other high-crime area you could name. If I drove my black-and-white down Central Avenue and saw a man walking against a red light, he knew that once he saw me, the contract demanded that he run the rest of the way, or at least increase the speed of his walking as an acknowledgement that he was breaking the law and, at least in theory, was deserving of a ticket. My end of the contract was to drive on, perhaps with a wave to the man to demonstrate that I appreciated his effort to honor the contract. These types of interactions take place thousands of times a day in cities across the country, including, I suspect, in Ferguson.

When the Ferguson officer drove onto the block and saw Michael Brown and his friend walking down the middle of the street, he expected them to move to the sidewalk as soon as they realized a police car was approaching. When they didn’t, the officer took it as a violation of the contract, even a challenge. Which in a way it was.

What happened after that has yet to be fully revealed, but if it’s true that Michael Brown was 35 feet away from the officer when he was shot, I can’t imagine a set of facts that would justify it.

Still, even if the shooting is as unjustified as some are claiming, how this translates into a license to pillage the neighborhood escapes me.

“Jack Dunphy” is the pseudonym of a police officer in Southern California.

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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby dunk50 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:31 pm

Xeno, Not wanting to get wrapped up in a bunch of race baiting and cop hating crap I will say my piece and move on. It is responses and thoughts like yours that tears at the heart of this country.
"regardless, the Police response is way out of hands, a no fly zone? tear gassing reporters? arresting reporters? That goes against everything this country stands for"

#1 regardless = as in I don't care what the truth is, the authorities / cops are wrong. #2 he Police response is way out of hands= if you mean they went overboard, try getting off your ass and standing in front of an ANGRY RACIST MOB throwing ricks, molotov cocktails and whatever else they threw. #3 gassing reporters, I forgot, reporters are special. They are allowed to go wherever and whenever they want, right?? Wrong, If they are told to move they need to move. News Media can be as much of an instigator as anyone. If they are present and defying Police orders it emboldens thugs. #4 That goes against everything this country stands for, SERIOUSLY. THIS COUNTRY IS A COUNTRY OF LAWS. They don't get suspended when a thug or a mob of thugs and thuggets decide to have some fun.
I and many of my brother and sister officers have been in these situations many times. Take a small framed officer and a 6'4" 294# thug and hell yes the officer can fear for his life and justifiably so. And lastly this, I commend the officers for not opening fire on half the idiots there. They have a right to PEACEFULLY PROTEST, they DONOT HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING, looting, arson, assault, how the hell is that EVERYTHING THIS COUNTRY STANDS FOR. At this point, I am so pissed at what I am seeing on TV that I can't even put it into words so these will have to do. You either need to get a life or out into the real world. THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE OUT THERE and the only thing between you and those bad people are people like me. Don't believe it, next time your in trouble, call a THUG!! :evil:
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby bubblyone » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:43 pm

What I really don't understand, is why the fixation on the officer's name?? To what purpose does that serve? We are going to riot in the streets because we don't know the name of the officer? Not logical to me.

Again, you could not pay me any amount of money to do that job, so I will thank those that are/were willing to do so! Thank you Dunk!
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby Happy Mom » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:45 pm

Love you Dunk!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby Happy Mom » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:48 pm

Michael Brown's accomplice in the robbery, Dorian Johnson, is the "eye witness" who said the officers shot Brown for "no reason." Unbelievable!!!!
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Re: The Mess in Ferguson, Missouri

Postby bob_rx2000 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:03 pm

All, generally speaking I support the police and tend to give them a very wide latitude when doing their jobs. I am certain that eventually the facts will win out and I only hope the society at large can suspend a rush to judgment on this matter. Now, so far as protest goes, there is an absolute Constitutional guarantee of the right to peacefully protest. There is no protection for riot, or for looting.

What I find disturbing is the response of our increasingly armored and militarized police. I am opposed to this trend and am glad to hear the program of putting military automatic rifles in the hands of cops is going to be reviewed. The "no fly zone" over the town is a "new thing" and as the FAA has to declare such a zone, is a disturbing indication of government bodies in action with an intent to limit civil rights. What manner of behavior and actions were they seeking to hide?

Riots by definition are uncontrolled mass violent actions. To what degree did the cops exacerbate the problem? Hard to tell, but I believe they would havre done better to let the rioters run wild.
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